See below an email reply to a listener expressing their heart (names removed). This seems to be a common theme – we are alone physically but together in Yahushua HaMashiach. May your heart be encouraged in this season.
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From: Todd Gatza [mailto:tgatza@dishmail.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 9:28 AM
To: ‘R’
Subject: RE: 7th day
Hey R, shalom sister and brother…
We understand the humbling adventure you have and still are on. Keep going and keep hanging on.
We don’t have the answers, that’s where this journey leads. I think taking a listen of Deagle from last night will encourage you. From what we have been learned by Him, I think they are pretty spot on for what we all understand today.
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We are in the same boat as you guys as far as fellowship and people we could call friends in Him. Not because we don’t want to be brothers, sisters, or aka friends. People’s heads seem to melt with their hearts through simple conversations and they don’t like what we have no fear of talking about. Or at least less fear than them. He did not make us with a spirit of fear and if we see, feel, or hear it, we’re like pit bulls to it and say hey, let’s talk and reason about that according to The Word and see what gems we will get out of it. People don’t see it that way though, take offense, and most of the time we just never hear from them again and we understand why, because we have been there, done that, and in our flesh are still in the same boat with them but they can’t, or better yet refuse to see that. They blame us and depart.
What He has allowed us all to discover is too deep for the cognitive school bell ringing halls of pavlofs dog training we all grew up in and are still in, in the world. Everything is geared towards having a relationship with Him personally or with the world, but must of us don’t want or take the responsibility to come out of the world. It requires Heart WORK! Period. The puzzle of His Times and Seasons/Calendar/Feasts is just one of many on infinite levels. His understanding/thoughts are Higher than ours, always. If we all can’t agree and submit to that, then we are in our own imaginations/magic/deception/perceptions.
Without doing the searching ourselves, having a drive and desire to seek truth, we cannot see, hear, and understand. The quantam Gordian knot of this is that we read plainly in His Word, He decides whom He wakes up. If we can stand the fire of the awakening….then…..we must do the work to overcome, which requires a readiness to have our hearts tested, and our idols identified, be they physical, mental, or spiritual, being ready to get pouty, cry, snot in the rug a bit, throw a fit or two on each other or on Him, knowing with one another this is the way it goes, then knowing on the other side, we are always strengthened and renewed WITH MORE TO COME IF WE KEEP GOING. It takes work, work in the hearts WITH ONE ANOTHER. That’s the way He has set things up and we cannot change it for our own perceptions. With witnessing comes testing of our hearts to overcome. Will we testify to what is or the way we want to believe through the worthless and vain things of our confused and heart injured forefathers?
When we do a half butt job of seeking because Jesus has it all covered, we get a lazy man’s understanding spirit and form a new denomination from one nugget found/revealed. Participating in the strong delusion. Standing when He says stand, stand, and stand some more, doesn’t mean we need people to agree with us. If we think or are unware that we think, having people gathered confirms OUR perceptions, we are in another holy bunker gathered together with those of like injured hearts.
There is a mystery of the hearts to be solved in every denomination. The general principle is simple, we all have different experiences through this life but we all respond the same ways; through control, manipulation, gluttony, drunkenness, bribery, stealing/things or spirit/attention, murder, adultery, false witness, etc….unto a society of Sodom and Gomora in madness, why calling it good with Jesus or the Devil. Once we realize again we are mankind and not God or gods, then we can get along and learn and do something in His Torah Heart Law Ruled Creation together, The Garden of Hearts will Flourish. They tell us today its Karma, a blessing or cursing each and every moment of every day.
We spent years on Paradigm shift and years before that making 1000’s of dvds, talking with folks in towns outside grocery stores etc…in the general public…trying to get folks to understand simply their slavery in the n w o system and then hoped they would take serious the most important aspect, their spiritual condition. From our experience, it’s a process and unless a man is willing to work he shall not eat. IN the world, the MANinfestion opposite is welfare, which from the fruit, only produces slavery and sin.
Coming to the realization that it’s not up to us to evangelize the world, it can’t be done, but we are to simply deal with those on an everyday basis in our lives, for a blessing or a curse each day, and that they will more than likely only get a little out of it because they want to pick and choose AS WE HOPE TOO, like a buffet, Truth, due to our injured perceptions, is the best and most He expects of every one of us…..INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY and the rest is up to Him and will Flow Accordingly.
Letting go is one of the hardest lessons we have ever had to learn to understand about OURSELVES, which allows us to see and hear others, having a heart of the love of many, which actually increases or should as we go, that’s if we are not wore out and overcome by the disappointments of our fears, the injuries of our own hearts. Still working on it today…lol Or I should say, He is still working on us and its only because we believe from our painful yet joyful walk with Him, that the treasures of wisdom and understanding lay in the understanding of the hearts of men and the only way we get it, is testing everything with one another to see what comes out of our mouths and how we treat one another. This seems to be the process of Healing the Broken Hearted and Setting the Captives Free.
With all that said, we have put the fact out about the Gregorian dates not being the same as the heavens in plain English, so we assume, and many many other truths as we understand them today. Not until people do the heart work, will they see and hear and obey, just like us.
The subject of Time is very difficult even for the minds and spirits of those seeking to grasp it. To me, that’s always an indication of where to go next. If it smells, seek out the stink and eliminate it, seek out the fear and expose it for freedom. For a practical example, we have aquaponics with fish. If I smell a fishy smell, I know a fish has jumped out of the tank or has died in the water. Funny thing is that it’s so simple. But with all the confusion/distractions of this fleshly karma world and life, created by our enemy, who cares, who has the time to consider time, or more simply something as obvious and inane as the Fed Reserve, the breaking of the Constitution/law into lawlessness, or GMOs, or BHP, or Vaccines, or etc…let alone their ultimate time with The Judge!?
Might as well be grateful you can see and know you are blind too. The dichotomy of this understanding is completely contrary to a world that literally blames their crimes against others. Want to know a politicians crimes, just listen to what they blame others for. The principles/Laws of the Heart stays the same, whatever most folks blame others for, they are doing themselves, its reverse conviction. As It Is Spoken and Decreed, He turns everything they do upside down. “They” are those outside Yashuahs Heart Law Kingdom of honesty and truth about THEMSELVES.
This division is going to get really deep before its done and most are going to perish while mocking you, so just keep going and be confident in His Process of refinement. That’s all we have learned in a nutshell. Keep the heart of Father…and our King…..please forgive them for they know not what they do because you have given me the understanding of your Son Hanging on a tree. The thing we have to be careful about is not using that as a cop out to avoid our own issues of the heart. The difference between the two is the difference on being in the strong delusion and keeping our heads above the waters.
Thank you for sharing. Tamara can sum up what I have said in probably one paragraph. Sorry about my grammar and such. Just banged this out in the Ruach I pray. Shalom to you and yours.
Todd
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From: [mailto:removed]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 7:36 PM
To: Todd Gatza
Subject: 7th day
good evening Todd, my name is R and I got your e-mail from K as she has sent me copies of your communications with her concerning the calendar. My husband and I have been in the “mess-antics”
movement since ’07 and have been trying to learn ever since about a year and a half ago we were trying to figure out when the schmitta year is and began digging and looking at such things. Could not find anything that satisfied our quest, but did buy Joseph Dummond’s book on the subject, but just did not go along with all of what he said. In the quest we began looking at other aspects of the calendar and learned a lot just digging around on the internet at different sites. We knew we were going to change and finally narrowed down to 2 folks that had sort of the same thoughts at least were winding up on the same day of the week. Those two were Abiyah of www.enochcalendars.webs.net and Rob Moore of www.inthatday.net. We wound up doing the one by Abiyah and committing to it for a year. We have gotten a “butt load” of flack and have even lost a few friends over the decision. But we have stuck with it. We listen to Matthew Nolan of www.torahtothetribes.net quite a bit and first heard of starting the day on his calendar teaching. Anyway, after much research we just cannot reconcile ourselves to the continuous Sat.
Sabbath. I have looked at a lot of things on your website and really do appreciate all the helps you have on there. I guess one of the biggest problems we have is trying to explain to people that Sat. remains fixed, but the numbers or dates do not. How would you or how do you explain that to folks? It has been hard to transition, but we feel that Abba has been pleased with our digging and searching. We live out in the boonies of eastern Oklahoma and very seldom get with anybody on Sabbath as none of our neighbors are interested in anything but who won the ballgame or what night is poker night? We are hungry for fellowship, but not interested in just getting together for someone else to do all the teaching and not a time for a discussion. Anyway, I’m sorry this is so long, I just wanted to do a bit of introduction.
Shalom,
R